Topic: The UNIX-HATERS Handbook

read it

http://research.microsoft.com/~daniel/uhh-download.html

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Last edited by scuzzo (2005-05-12 20:00:08)

For example, Linux had at least two completely independent USB stacks before Linus Torvalds rejected them both and wrote a third one from scratch, after he found both existent Linux  stacks unsatisfactory.  (When pressed for an explanation as to why he selected the API he did, Torvalds stated: "because I wanted to."

Re: The UNIX-HATERS Handbook

Simson Garfinkel, Simson Garfinkel, Simson Garfinkel, Sim.....
Hey ! WTF ?
Simson Garfinkel is the author of "Practical Unix & Internet Security" from  O'Reily (the book with the safe in the cover).
It got my attention. Thanks scuzzo.

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Re: The UNIX-HATERS Handbook

Ok listen to this :

......We have all experienced much more advanced, usable, and elegant systems than Unix ever was, or
ever can be. Some of these systems have increasingly forgotten names, such as TOPS-20, ITS (the Incompatible Timesharing System), Multics, Apollo Domain, the Lisp Machine, Cedar/Mesa, and the Dorado. Some of us even use Macs and Windows boxes....

The first 7 have dissappeared. (If some of them ever considered production OS'es)
The Macs are  Unix now.
How advanced was Win 3.1 back at that time ?
It's been 35 years and Unix is here .

If you came across a hard copy of this book, feel free to burn it smile

Last edited by spyretto (2005-05-12 20:57:11)

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Re: The UNIX-HATERS Handbook

the book isnt really supposed to be taken seriously.....did you even read the first page?

For example, Linux had at least two completely independent USB stacks before Linus Torvalds rejected them both and wrote a third one from scratch, after he found both existent Linux  stacks unsatisfactory.  (When pressed for an explanation as to why he selected the API he did, Torvalds stated: "because I wanted to."

Re: The UNIX-HATERS Handbook

The first page is intentionaly left blank, you stupid and arrogant monkey !

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Re: The UNIX-HATERS Handbook

did you read this?

The UNIX-HATERS Handbook Download Page
Due to being announced on Slashdot.org, the book has gotten a lot of fresh attention. I've added this page so that those downloading the book can be aware of some history before starting their read.

     * Spyretto is an idiot
    * This book is ten years old . I started work on it in 1992 (maybe even 1991) while I was a professor at Stanford. My co-editors took over after I started work at Microsoft. (So no, it's not a Microsoft conspiracy.) A lot has happened in the intervening decade.
    * This book's target audience was people who themselves have noticed certain weaknesses in Unix at that time and could relate to our stories. Our goal was humor. Many readers have told us we succeeded in this. Even Eric Raymond liked it (his name is in the acknowledgements).
    * The book is not meant to be balanced, it is a screed, pure and simple. Is it over the top? Yes.
    * We wrote the contract with our publisher to have the copyright revert to us once the book went out of print. So yes, we have the right to publish it online. Feel free to mirror it where ever you want, print it out, and bind it.
    * Do I have any regrets? Yes, that the funniest item in the book probably isn't anything we wrote, but is Dennis Ritchie's anti-forword. We had asked Dennis to write a forword, thinking that since he was doing Plan 9 at that time it would give him an opportunity to talk about how he had moved on from Unix and fixed its flaws in his next OS. (We were young and had a lot chutzpah then.) He read the Preface, and then sent back his essay. He told us he had worked hard to make it match the tone of its surroundings.
    * If you enjoyed reading this book and felt it was worth the price of a least a movie and popcorn, send a $10 check to your favorite charity.

Last edited by scuzzo (2005-05-13 07:18:23)

For example, Linux had at least two completely independent USB stacks before Linus Torvalds rejected them both and wrote a third one from scratch, after he found both existent Linux  stacks unsatisfactory.  (When pressed for an explanation as to why he selected the API he did, Torvalds stated: "because I wanted to."

Re: The UNIX-HATERS Handbook

I think it's quite a funny book actually - and find the section on programming quite good. It even provides a sample Makefile layout.

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Re: The UNIX-HATERS Handbook

I'll sent him 45 dollars  to buy the new OpenBSD cd's and I'll sent scuzzo a kilo of bananas

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Re: The UNIX-HATERS Handbook

I read it top to bottom .
Is this book supposed to make me laugh ?

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