Topic: Who buys this crap?

Antivirus for BSD

I'm really curious who they think will buy this thing. You would think that anybody who runs a BSD box is savvy enough to know this is a complete waste of money and hard disk space.

... and then they said "I bet you can't make MINIX kernel panic!!!" And that's when I got mad

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I bougth a license for my lappy..


















ok just kidding smile

<wintellect> NetBSD users are smart enough to accept that there's no 3D support tongue

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Something about anti-virus software that runs on OpenBSD is weird.

May Science bless you.

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It's probably intented to scan files that will end on M$ machines through  unix mail or file servers. But the best part is this :

Unknown threats are detected with F-Prot's heuristic technology

Woa !! I just wish it could scan for broken libraries too tongue

Guru for a day, newbie for a lifetime

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Apparently BSD has "over 231456 known viruses"

$ gcc -Wall Kuno.c -o Kuno
Kuno.c: In function 'main':
Kuno.c:5: warning: unused variable 'Life'

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kuno wrote:

Apparently BSD has "over 231456 known viruses"

i found that number dangerously close to 123456 ^^


but in all fairness that seems to be the total number of worms, viruses and so on that the program know of, on all platforms, if i understand correctly.

Last edited by illiterate (2006-01-26 11:13:31)

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illiterate wrote:
kuno wrote:

Apparently BSD has "over 231456 known viruses"

i found that number dangerously close to 123456 ^^

ROFL!

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spyretto wrote:

It's probably intented to scan files that will end on M$ machines through  unix mail or file servers.

Yes, I think that is the purpose..why else would you want to run anti virus on your system, plus f-prot is not exactly a good anti virus scanner imho. If I had a big mail server with several Windows clients I'd make sure I have a good anti virus option running and since we're talking about bigger companies who'd most likely have that kind of setup I would say they prefer a commercial solution with phone/email support over an open source solution.

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BSDDomi wrote:

and since we're talking about bigger companies who'd most likely have that kind of setup I would say they prefer a commercial solution with phone/email support over an open source solution.

I have to wonder though, what exactly does phone/email support give you? I've received much more qualified answers from OSS projects than companies in general. And I'd be very surprise if an AV vendor does anything at all based on a support request.

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Well, Maxlor, I wish I knew this is what most companies say...we want support and we can't get that from an open source project...I have no idea why they think that paid support is any better than that of open source projects..I personally can't say that a paid service is worth all the money you may spend...try to call Microsoft support with a request or just email them, we did this at Compaq once and see how long it takes them to get back to you and what they tell you to do...even a Windows newbie would know more than most of these supporters do wink...so I think it's just the contract, knowing that they will get support for their money and hopefully some qualified tech people. That's I bet also the reason they would never run any BSD here no matter how much better it scores...

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spyretto wrote:

It's probably intented to scan files that will end on M$ machines through  unix mail or file servers. But the best part is this :

Unknown threats are detected with F-Prot's heuristic technology

Woa !! I just wish it could scan for broken libraries too tongue

Actually no, I gave the link directly to the "workstation" version which is sold seperately from the "unix mail server version". These idiots really are trying to sell virus scanners for BSD.

... and then they said "I bet you can't make MINIX kernel panic!!!" And that's when I got mad

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KernelPanicked wrote:

Actually no, I gave the link directly to the "workstation" version which is sold seperately from the "unix mail server version". These idiots really are trying to sell virus scanners for BSD.

Well, KernelPanicked, workstations can be used as a server wink...
Seriously I wouldn't know either why anyone would want a virus scanner on a BSD client...hm...maybe other Windows clients are in the network?? Maybe we should open a poll and see where it takes us? What do you think? wink

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The workstation version can easily be hooked into a mailserver too. Performance won't be as good though, but it works.

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File servers & mail gateways would be the answer.....

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As long as people buy haunted tea cups off of ebay, people will probably buy anti-virus for *nix.

$ gcc -Wall Kuno.c -o Kuno
Kuno.c: In function 'main':
Kuno.c:5: warning: unused variable 'Life'

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BSDDomi wrote:

Well, Maxlor, I wish I knew this is what most companies say...we want support and we can't get that from an open source project...I have no idea why they think that paid support is any better than that of open source projects..I personally can't say that a paid service is worth all the money you may spend...try to call Microsoft support with a request or just email them, we did this at Compaq once and see how long it takes them to get back to you and what they tell you to do...even a Windows newbie would know more than most of these supporters do wink...so I think it's just the contract, knowing that they will get support for their money and hopefully some qualified tech people. That's I bet also the reason they would never run any BSD here no matter how much better it scores...

There was a very droll article.  Some folks did a comparison.  They called Microsoft paid support and then called a psychic and compared the results.

The psychic was nicer and the pyschic line had a shorter wait time (and, I think they said better hold music.)
Microsoft did refund the cost of one of the three calls.
The psychic was nicer.

Neither one was able to help. 

So, in the end, they found it more cost-efficient, both in price and in time spent (as MS put them on hold longer) to call the psychic.

I suspect if you call for support on BSD, the chances are about 10 to 1 that you will get a person able to support it.

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scottro wrote:

There was a very droll article.  Some folks did a comparison.  They called Microsoft paid support and then called a psychic and compared the results.

The psychic was nicer and the pyschic line had a shorter wait time (and, I think they said better hold music.)
Microsoft did refund the cost of one of the three calls.
The psychic was nicer.

Neither one was able to help. 

So, in the end, they found it more cost-efficient, both in price and in time spent (as MS put them on hold longer) to call the psychic.

I suspect if you call for support on BSD, the chances are about 10 to 1 that you will get a person able to support it.

tongue..never even thought about that...hey, we BSD nuts might as well call the daemon...that's what they tell me here at work all the time, you little devil you tongue